AI researchers debate how close we are to recursive self-improvement
As agents generate more and more of your software, the bottleneck shifts from your engineers actually writing code to verifying it. Ron Minsky, who co-leads Jane Street’s tech group, told me that Antithesis was able to help his team shake out bugs in software that had already undergone heavy review. If you want to see how it fits into your development process, go to antithesis.com/dwarkeshGrok Bot has been a great way to hand off tasks.
- ▪As agents generate more and more of your software, the bottleneck shifts from your engineers actually writing code to verifying it.
- ▪Ron Minsky, who co-leads Jane Street’s tech group, told me that Antithesis was able to help his team shake out bugs in software that had already undergone heavy review.
- ▪If you want to see how it fits into your development process, go to antithesis.com/dwarkeshGrok Bot has been a great way to hand off tasks.
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Playback speed×Share postShare post at current timeShare from 0:000:00/Generate transcriptA transcript unlocks clips, previews, and editing.4793AI researchers debate how close we are to recursive self-improvement“We're nowhere near the ceiling.”Dwarkesh PatelSep 11, 20264793ShareTranscriptNew episode with John Schulman, Beren Millidge and Charlie O’Neill.I got together with some of the most insightful AI researchers I know who are at the openish companies, because I wanted to hear the details of what's actually happening at the frontier and what comes next.Watch on YouTube; listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.SponsorsAntithesis helps you trust your code. As agents generate more and more of your software, the bottleneck shifts from your engineers actually writing code to verifying it.
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