Building Pi with Pi
The article discusses the challenges faced while using Pi to build Pi, particularly in relation to the issue tracker. It highlights the complications arising from issues generated by clankers, which often lead to inaccurate diagnoses and increased complexity. The author emphasizes the need for clearer, more concise issue reports that reflect actual observations rather than convoluted analyses.
- ▪Mario has been involved with Pi's issue tracker longer than the author, providing valuable insights into its complexities.
- ▪Issues generated by clankers often contain inaccuracies and lead to confusion in diagnosing problems.
- ▪The author advocates for issue reports to be based on direct observations rather than reworded analyses from clankers.
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| Original publisher | Armin Ronacher's Thoughts and Writings |
| Canonical URL | https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/5/24/pi-oss/ |
| Publication time | Sun, 24 May 2026 17:22:48 +0000 |
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Building Pi With Pi written on May 24, 2026 Pi is now part of Earendil, but in the important sense it is still Mario’s project. He has been living with its issue tracker longer than I have, and he has been exposed to the weirdness of the new form of agent traffic in Open Source projects for longer too. This post is mostly a reflection of my own experience after spending more time in the tracker, using Pi to work on Pi, and watching what I have learned about it so far. Slop Issues Unsurprisingly, we are using Pi to build Pi. That sounds like a cute dogfooding thing but it really helps understand what we do. An interesting effect of building with agents is that it changes the role of the issue tracker a tiny bit.
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