Exploring Claude/GPT Knowledge Cutoffs and Pre-Training Timelines
While all labs operate slightly differently, what you might see (~page 44) is:The “pre-training” team kicks off and babysits a multi-month run to get a base checkpoint. These pre-training models often, but not always, imply major versions of released models (GPT-4 → GPT-5).While that’s happening, the “capability” and “post-training” teams will run experiments for how to improve on the most recent base model. Advancements in post-training and capabilities often manifest as minor versions of released models.
- ▪While all labs operate slightly differently, what you might see (~page 44) is:The “pre-training” team kicks off and babysits a multi-month run to get a base checkpoint.
- ▪These pre-training models often, but not always, imply major versions of released models (GPT-4 → GPT-5).While that’s happening, the “capability” and “post-training” teams will run experiments for how to improve on the most recent base mode
- ▪Advancements in post-training and capabilities often manifest as minor versions of released models.
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Exploring Claude/GPT Knowledge Cutoffs & Pre-training TimelinesAn analysis of what models know and what it tells us about how they were trained.Shrivu ShankarAug 10, 2026ShareWe can learn hidden facts about how frontier models were trained by “probing” them with carefully curated requests.By scoring them on niche facts we can approximate how many parameters models like GPT-5 and Opus have, using “Incompressible Knowledge Probes”By measuring how the models break down tokens we can reveal facts about the datasets mixtures they used to train the model (or at least the tokenizer) using “Data Mixture Inference”By scoring them on date or self-identification related questions you can also estimate training timelines (this post)Everything here is an estimate.
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