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Hypothetical scenario; Post AI cryptography?

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TL;DR: My intuition is that AI/ML-assisted cryptanalysis will accelerate the pace of discovering new better factoring and lattice-reduction algorithms, but there’s nothing fundamentally new about the algorithms discovered by ML-assisted research methods that would invalidate our current security proofs. AI/ML is able to make astounding progress on problems such as human genetics or drug discovery, but keep in mind that the human genome is 725 mb and there are tens of millions of known organic compounds, whereas the key space of AES-256 is like 10^66 TB – more than the number of atoms on earth (estimated at 10^50). So unless we’ve thoroughly goofed in designing our permutation functions, you would need more input-output pairs in the “training data” than there are atoms on the planet.

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TL;DR: My intuition is that AI/ML-assisted cryptanalysis will accelerate the pace of discovering new better factoring and lattice-reduction algorithms, but there’s nothing fundamentally new about the algorithms discovered by ML-assisted research methods that would invalidate our current security proofs. AI/ML is able to make astounding progress on problems such as human genetics or drug discovery, but keep in mind that the human genome is 725 mb and there are tens of millions of known organic compounds, whereas the key space of AES-256 is like 10^66 TB – more than the number of atoms on earth (estimated at 10^50). So unless we’ve thoroughly goofed in designing our permutation functions, you would need more input-output pairs in the “training data” than there are atoms on the planet.

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