‘If this isn’t addiction, I don’t know what is’: Light’s founders get real about screen time
Now, with a new flip phone and a growing wave of “attention activists” pushing back against Big Tech, they think the rest of the world is finally catching up to them. On this episode of TechCrunch’s Equity podcast, Amanda Silberling talks with Tang and Hollier about the company’s newly announced flip phone, why they think the anti-smartphone backlash is only just getting started, and what it takes to break an addiction that fits in your pocket. You also can follow Equity on X and Threads, at @EquityPod.
- ▪Now, with a new flip phone and a growing wave of “attention activists” pushing back against Big Tech, they think the rest of the world is finally catching up to them.
- ▪On this episode of TechCrunch’s Equity podcast, Amanda Silberling talks with Tang and Hollier about the company’s newly announced flip phone, why they think the anti-smartphone backlash is only just getting started, and what it takes to bre
- ▪You also can follow Equity on X and Threads, at @EquityPod.
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‘If this isn’t addiction, I don’t know what is’: Light’s founders get real about screen time Amanda Silberling , Theresa Loconsolo Jul 29, 2026 Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify With the Light Phone, Kaiwei Tang and Joe Hollier have spent over a decade exploring the value of simplicity in our relationship to technology, partnering along the way with players like Andrew Yang, Kendrick Lamar, and Pete Davidson. Now, with a new flip phone and a growing wave of “attention activists” pushing back against Big Tech, they think the rest of the world is finally catching up to them.
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